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stole the election. that's why obama won. half the republicans say democrats are engaged in voter fraud. ron, i'm far more fascinated by the fact that all these republicans believe that a.c.o.r.n. -- how can you put your signature to that? how can somebody say to that openly on the telephone, well, i think a.c.o.r.n. did it? >> because they hear it on fox news. that's why. fox news beats the drum about this kind of stuff, and that's all these people listen to. they live in this bubble. >> i think they misheard it and they thought a unicorn stole the election. >> i mean a.c.o.r.n. they don't have a nickel to rub against another nickel, and they're running the country. thank you, dana and ron. i think we caught the spirit of this nonsense. >>> up next, one of the most popular guests we've ever had on "hardball," barney frank joins us as he prepares to leave the congress after more than -- boy, barney's been around a long time. i thought he was the new guy. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] jill
stole the election. that's why obama won. half the republicans say democrats are engaged in voter fraud. ron, i'm far more fascinated by the fact that all these republicans believe that a.c.o.r.n. -- how can you put your signature to that? how can somebody say to that openly on the telephone, well, i think a.c.o.r.n. did it? >> because they hear it on fox news. that's why. fox news beats the drum about this kind of stuff, and that's all these people listen to. they live in this bubble....
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and won the election. (laughter) it's like he's totally disregarding my dismissive finger quotes. what part of this don't you understand president "o" bama. (laughter) here's what's really scaring me, folks. republicans might let him do it, even though every remember in congress has signed the new taxes pledge created by the president of americans for tax reform, grover norquist. (thunder clashes) the two most terrifying words a republican can hear other than "buenos dias." (laughter and applause) but now some republicans are abandoning the anti-tax pledge as fast as they abandoned -- oh, what's his name? (laughter) i got it, don't help me, don't help me. rip flambe. (laughter) no, no, that's my personal train trainer. (laughter) no, the point is conservatives are jumping ship. >> i want to buy down debt and cut rates that create jobs but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. the only thing i'm honoring is the oath that i take when i serve -- when i'm sworn in this january. >> a pledge you signed 20 years ago,
and won the election. (laughter) it's like he's totally disregarding my dismissive finger quotes. what part of this don't you understand president "o" bama. (laughter) here's what's really scaring me, folks. republicans might let him do it, even though every remember in congress has signed the new taxes pledge created by the president of americans for tax reform, grover norquist. (thunder clashes) the two most terrifying words a republican can hear other than "buenos dias."...
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they re-elected him. but the white house has said that the rates don't have to return to clinton era levels. obama's nemesis as he often told us are millionaires and billionaires. so why not urge that the higher tax rates be applied only to those with incomes of $1 million and not the couples earning more than $250,000. now, i'm talking pure politics, not equity in this case. can they hang their hat on the fact, okay, you're against millionaires, we'll take back their cut for the millionaires? below that they have to get the deal. >> the problem with this is chuck schumer and other senate democrats tried to offer this to republicans last time. remember the last time we did this they rejected it. >> it works for them now. they can say all we want is the schumer deal. >> right now they don't have the leverage to get the schumer deal. they rejected the schumer deal. they don't have the leverage to get it. >> here we disagree. i think they may have a case. if the bogey man is the millionaire -- >> i think tha
they re-elected him. but the white house has said that the rates don't have to return to clinton era levels. obama's nemesis as he often told us are millionaires and billionaires. so why not urge that the higher tax rates be applied only to those with incomes of $1 million and not the couples earning more than $250,000. now, i'm talking pure politics, not equity in this case. can they hang their hat on the fact, okay, you're against millionaires, we'll take back their cut for the millionaires?...
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four years ago it was then-president-elect obama and john mccain. >> i think that's a -- sends a great message to the american people. these two men were involved in a very bitter election for to be president of the united states. i think it speaks well of both of them to sit down and have lunch. >> reporter: earlier in the day the former gop nominee met with his former running mate paul ryan where an aide to the congressman said he had a constructive and positive conversation with mitt romney this morning. in addition to sharing updates from their families and reflections from the campaign, their forward looking conversation focused on resolving the critical fiscal and economic challenges ahead. translation, fiscal cliff. it's a challenge romney might have faced had he won. but as one of his strategists said on cbs, mistakes were made. >> i think we should have done a better job reaching out to women voters, the governor has a great record on women's issues. we should have done a better job articulating that record. and we should have done a better job reaching out to hispanic voters.
four years ago it was then-president-elect obama and john mccain. >> i think that's a -- sends a great message to the american people. these two men were involved in a very bitter election for to be president of the united states. i think it speaks well of both of them to sit down and have lunch. >> reporter: earlier in the day the former gop nominee met with his former running mate paul ryan where an aide to the congressman said he had a constructive and positive conversation with...
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everyone else in the system has an election and obama doesn't. so as his capital goes down and his vision gets wider, historically everyone else is getting narrower to that -- it not even to election day in '14 but to primary day. >> with all that said, lee, you look at the deal, as michael said, the president came out big. not only does he want taxes to go up on the wealthy but stimulus spending, the power to raise the debt ceiling. where is the middle ground? who blinks on these questions of taxes? >> everyone is doubling down and waiting for the other side to blink first. that's why we'll push this. this could be all choreographed. we don't know what's happening with the side conversations. both sides will probably give. everyone knows that will be the case. the president has a lot of leverage. he, of course, doesn't have absolute leverage but has more than he had. learned a lesson in 2001. he's coming out of the gate with strong rhetoric. >> michael? >> if you took grover out of the equation and lowered the flame, how long do you think it wou
everyone else in the system has an election and obama doesn't. so as his capital goes down and his vision gets wider, historically everyone else is getting narrower to that -- it not even to election day in '14 but to primary day. >> with all that said, lee, you look at the deal, as michael said, the president came out big. not only does he want taxes to go up on the wealthy but stimulus spending, the power to raise the debt ceiling. where is the middle ground? who blinks on these...
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but president obama has been re-elected here in the u.s. i know he feels deeply about this issue. he regards peace between israelis and palestinians as a genuine strategic interest of the united states. and we're going to have i think a fresh opportunity to go back to this issue to try and grip it and frame it in the right way and we've got to try. i always say to people, we spent decades trying and failing in northern ireland and finally we got a process that worked. there isn't an alternative except to come back and try again. and that's what we've got to do. by the way, as the region is in turmoil, although in one sense it becomes harder for the parties to see their way through, it's more important that the israeli-palestinian issue is put in a place where there's hope and progress. because it could, especially with the other changes in the region, get mixed up in the politics of the region in a way that puts us even further back. >> i know you're watching what's going on with these so-called fiscal cliff negotiations here in the united states. as concerned as we are here in th
but president obama has been re-elected here in the u.s. i know he feels deeply about this issue. he regards peace between israelis and palestinians as a genuine strategic interest of the united states. and we're going to have i think a fresh opportunity to go back to this issue to try and grip it and frame it in the right way and we've got to try. i always say to people, we spent decades trying and failing in northern ireland and finally we got a process that worked. there isn't an alternative...
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now democratic leaders are elated. >> elections have consequences. the president campaigned, he made it very clear -- he made it very clear that he was supporting a tax cut for the middle class, that he wanted the expiration of the tax cuts for the high end. >> reporter: and at the end of the day, joe, that is still the most significant, the biggest stumbling block on the road to the fiscal cliff, that difference between tax rates for the wealthiest americans. and what house democrats announced they're going to try to do is an end run around the house gop to try to file a petition in order to try to push a vote on the house floor to just raise taxes -- excuse me, to just extend the bush-era tax rates for middle class americans. but to do that, as you know, they need 218 votes and there's still a very sizable republican majority in the house. it will be difficult for democrats to do that. >> absolutely. and that proposal to take away what has been historically a congressional prerogative was a little bit surprising even to people who have been reading
now democratic leaders are elated. >> elections have consequences. the president campaigned, he made it very clear -- he made it very clear that he was supporting a tax cut for the middle class, that he wanted the expiration of the tax cuts for the high end. >> reporter: and at the end of the day, joe, that is still the most significant, the biggest stumbling block on the road to the fiscal cliff, that difference between tax rates for the wealthiest americans. and what house...